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Cornered: Out of Court an IICLE Podcast

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Cornered: Out of Court

A Podcast for Illinois Attorneys

Your go-to podcast for those everyday Illinois focused legal questions that pop up in casual conversations, especially when they fall outside your practice area. Our episodes bring in experienced attorneys from various specialties, providing you with reliable answers to the quirky questions non-lawyers often ask.

Hosted by IICLE®, we dive into topics that every attorney might find useful, even if they’re outside your usual expertise. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out, this podcast will help you handle those unexpected legal discussions with ease.

Tune in wherever you listen to podcasts and get the insights you need to respond confidently to those out-of-left-field questions.


Latest Episode

Cornered: Condominium Law with Kenneth Michaels, Jr.

Cornered: Condominium Law with Kenneth Michaels, Jr.

Many wonder if condominium ownership is right for them. Kenneth Michaels, Jr., of Bauch & Michaels LLC, writes the Condominium Law FLASHPOINTS and, in this episode of Cornered: Out of Court, provides some key considerations for purchasers and associations.

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Latest Cornered Bonus Episode

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Essential Programming for Estate Planning Attorneys

The Estate Planning Short Course is May 5th and 6th in Champaign and via live webcast and May 19th and 20th in Chicago. The course includes two full days of practice guidance and networking opportunities for estate planning attorneys. With so many new developments in estate planning to be covered during this program, we're fortunate to hear from Lorraine Cavataio of Sandberg Phoenix & von Gontard P.C. and Stacy Singer of The Northern Trust who are co-chairs of the planning committee for this year's program to learn more about what attendees can expect.

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Episode Archive

Cornered: Essential Caselaw and Legislative Updates for Elder Law Attorneys
Episode 15: October 7, 2025 | Cornered: Literature and the Law with Professor Meghan Brinson

Many attorneys have a deep appreciation for the literary arts, and Professor Meghan Brinson of the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign exemplifies how legal scholarship and literature can intersect meaningfully. Through her teaching, she blends these disciplines to enrich her students’ understanding of both. Listen Now!

Cornered: Tim Eaton on the Great Responsibilities and Privileges of Practicing Attorneys
Episode 14: September 2, 2025 | Cornered: Essential Caselaw and Legislative Updates for Elder Law Attorneys

Staying on top of recent decisions and legislation impacting estate planning, guardianships, and more is essential for elder law attorneys who advise clients and their families on wide-ranging matters. In Illinois, important 2025 developments include the One Big Beautiful Bill, limits to facility liability for negligence, attorney duties for mental capacity determinations, receipt of assets by minor family members, and more. Listen Now!

Cornered: Tim Eaton on the Great Responsibilities and Privileges of Practicing Attorneys
Episode 13: August 5, 2025 | Cornered: Tim Eaton on the Great Responsibilities and Privileges of Practicing Attorneys

In the introduction to Chapter 1 of the IICLE® handbook ATTORNEYS' LEGAL LIABILITY, J. Timothy Eaton identifies this core principle of the profession: "When we enter the legal profession," he writes, "we accept a responsibility to serve not only our clients, but also the larger public." Mr. Eaton draws on a wealth of experience when discussing how attorneys balance these responsibilities, especially in the face of competing interests. Listen Now!

Cornered: Vadim Glozman Business Clients are subpoenaed
Episode 12: July 1, 2025 | Cornered: Vadim Glozman Advises When Your Business Client Is Subpoenaed

Nothing makes a business owner's stomach drop and blood pressure rise quite like being served a subpoena that seeks documents or testimony. Corporate and commercial attorneys need their clients to confidently reach out for informed guidance at these stressful times. In this episode, Vadim Glozman explores some of the pitfalls you can help your clients avoid. Listen Now!

Cornered: Brandon Wright on School Law
Episode 11: June 3, 2025 | Cornered: Brandon Wright on School Law

School law sits at the intersection of local governance and national policy, touching everything from student records to constitutional rights. In this episode, Brandon Wright, a school law attorney and author of Chapter 1 in IICLE’s 2025 edition of School Law: Organization, Finance, and Property, explores the legal complexities of student residency, special education, and First Amendment issues in schools. He also shares what every attorney should know when these topics come up in practice. Listen Now!

Cornered: Amy Gardner on Executive Presence
Episode 10: May 6, 2025 | Cornered: Amy Gardner on Executive Presence

Every member of your firm's team contributes to the business's success, and they all look to the firm's leaders for direction, support, and an understanding of mission -- the same qualities clients expect from their legal advocates. Amy Gardner, co-founder of Apochromatik, a coaching and consulting firm in Chicago, explains how leadership coaching helps law firm leaders bring team and career challenges into clear focus. Listen Now!

Cornered: Brian McGovern on Workers' Compensation from Reporting to Resolution
Episode 9: April 1, 2025 | Cornered: Brian McGovern on Workers' Compensation from Reporting to Resolution

This week we corner Brian McGovern of Hanagan & McGovern in Mount Vernon, Illinois, to learn about the process injured workers can expect, some of the pitfalls along the way, and why legal representation in these matters is so important to securing a soft landing. Listen Now!

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Episode 8: March 3, 2025 | Cornered: Michele Jochner Explores Appeals of Family Court Orders

Michele M. Jochner, Partner at Schiller DuCanto & Fleck LLP, discusses both the legal and personal aspects of appealing family court orders. Listen Now!

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Episode 7: Feb 4, 2025 | Connor Londrigan Explains Complexities Behind Personal Injury Cases

When you’re injured—whether behind the wheel, due to a faulty product, or simply out and about—you may wonder how you’ll cover medical bills and lost wages... Listen Now!

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Episode 6: Jan 7, 2025 | Cornered: Erin Wilson Tackles the Legal and Emotional Challenges of Divorce

Couples going through a divorce encounter many challenges and uncertainties... Listen Now!

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Episode 5: December 3, 2024 | Cornered: Out of Court -- Best of 2024

Although Cornered: Out of Court is a new podcast from IICLE®, the end of the year seems a natural time... Listen Now!

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Episode 4: November 5, 2024 | Cornered: R. Mark Halligan Dives Into Intellectual Property

In Episode 4, we corner R. Mark Halligan, a Partner at FisherBroyles and the General Editor of IICLE®’s Intellectual Property Law publication... Listen Now!

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Episode 3: October 8, 2024 | Cornered: Kevin Lichtenberg Discusses Wills, Trusts, and More

We broke the mold this month and dropped another episode of Cornered: Out of Court... Listen Now!

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Episode 2: October 1, 2024 | Cornered: Tom Reuland Discusses Personal Injury Representation

In the latest episode of Cornered: Out of Court, Tom Reuland shares his insights on personal injury representation... Listen Now!

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Bonus Episode 1: September 17, 2024 | Recent Developments in Noncompete Agreements

There has been a lot of movement around employee noncompete agreements. Jonathan Crook of Fisher & Phillips LLP briefs us on the latest developments. Listen Now!

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Episode 1: September 3, 2024 | Cornered: Nrupa Patel Answers Family Law Questions About Child Visitation, Support, and More.

In this episode of Cornered: Out of Court, family law attorney Nrupa Patel addresses key family law issues... Listen Now!

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